Honest Question

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A friend recently spoke to a person (let’s call her “M”) who was interested in Jesus and had lots of questions. He found out M lives near me, so he gave her my number. Here is the text I received from her, along with my answers (answers lengthened for better clarity in this post).

M: If God told us to have faith, why are all the churches walking around with masks on and closing their doors? I want to find a church, but I’m discouraged because they don’t seem to be practicing what they are presenting.

For the first time in America, churches have to face the reality that there are times when they must disobey the government, it’s a new thing to them. Most churches are compliant, but some are not. I know of a church in Orange County that has continued to meet in spite of the government order. I have been in “underground” churches in China, where Christians disobey the government in order to practice their faith. Most Christians here have no concept of that. One of the issues churches are dealing with is Romans 13, which basically says Christians should submit to the government. 

Romans 13:1–2

1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 

This section of scripture is one of the main text pastors are citing during the COVID-19 trial, and that makes sense, since it’s one of the clearest places where the church/government relationship is addressed. As with all verses, it’s good to look at the context to get the full understanding. Here are the following verses.

 Romans 13:3–4 

3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 

Those verses are the reason many Christians are choosing to disobey the government by keeping their churches open. In the opinion of many pastors, the government is not doing it’s God-appointed job. Verses 1-2 show that God established the government. Verses 3-4 show what the government’s job is: “it is a minister of God to you for good.” The argument is; if the government is not doing what God intended it to do… if it’s restricting you from doing good (like forcing you to close a church or forcing you to stop pleading for life in front of an abortion clinic), the government is now sinning, and you are not required to obey a command to sin. In fact, throughout the bible, people are clearly commanded to obey God rather than any man, including the government, regardless of the consequences. Famous examples would be Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego and the fiery furnace in Daniel 3, Daniel in the lion’s den in Daniel 6, and Peter and John in Acts 4. 

This is not a contradiction (submit to the government / disobey the government), it’s simply an example of what to do when the government does not follow God’s plan. We see this kind of thing throughout the bible, a general truth with specific details concerning that same truth in other contexts. For example, we are told not to get a divorce, but there are provisions for a God-approved exemption for divorce (If your spouse has sex with someone else, God is not going to force you to stay with them and you are free to leave that cheating spouse; Matthew 19:9). In a similar manner, submission to the government is God’s plan for citizens, but there is an exemption when the government is encouraging you to sin. This is the big question; Is it sinful to close a church because the government tells you to, when you have a biblical reason to keep it open?

M: So by closing it’s a sin?

That’s the question many churches are trying to figure out. I would say it depends on the motive. Motive is always a factor. If a church is closed because the leaders are genuinely concerned for the safety of the people, that would be a good reason to close a church. Whether it’s a virus or structural damage, if the building poses a real threat to the safety of the people, close that thing until it’s safe. On the other hand, I believe a wrong motive to close a church would be to remain in good standing with the government, when the government is telling you to follow orders that oppose God’s commands. A church should get its orders from King Jesus, rather than any governor, mayor or president. In the book of Acts we see an example of this.

Acts 4:18–20  

18 And when they (the authorities) had summoned them, they commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge; 20 for we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard.” 

 That text is not within the context of a church being shut down, but the principle for Christians is clear; we must obey God rather than men. Another verse that comes into play is…

Hebrews 10:24–25 

24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, 25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. 

 Because of that verse, many pastors think it is sin to close a church and stop meeting. 

 M: Ok, that makes sence.

(End of text) 

From this point, I encouraged her to watch “American Gospel” on Nexflix. Pray for M, pray that God would guide her to the truth. Looking back on her questions, I realized I may have totally missed the point of her question. Yes, that actually happens on occasion.

M: If God told us to have faith, why are all the churches walking around with masks on and closing their doors?

After a second look, this question may have undertones of the idea that God will keep us from getting sick if we have enough faith. If I have the opportunity to speak with her again, I will ask if that was what she was getting at. If so, the answer is basically this; God healed many people in the bible but that does not mean He will heal us of every illness. Christians and unbelievers die of the same diseases. From there I can get into the issue of false faith-movement teaching if needed.

One might look at M’s email and think, “Yes, some unbelievers may be wanting to go to church, but other unbelievers will be mad at us if we open church.” That is true, but the bigger question is, why should we care about the opinions of unbelievers when we know what the bible says? Why should Christians allow unbiblical thinking to influence the direction of biblical ministry? If your goal as a pastor is to be a seeker-sensitive church, you have bigger problems than COVID-19. If you are desiring to do the will of God, I would hope that you are more concerned with God’s opinion rather than man’s. If you are in a position of leadership at a church, and you are involved in the decision of wether to open your church or keep it closed, I have no authority to tell you what to do. I simply ask that you examine your reason for doing what you do concerning the opening/closure of your church. In 500 years from now, COVID-19, the government and the shepherding of your church will no longer be an issue, but our King will remain. Serve your King to the best of your ability.

What do I take away from M’s text? A few things.

  • Unbelievers are watching us. Do they see Christians as courageous? Or do they see us as the rest of the world; uncertain about the future, fearing for our lives, answering only to the government as our final authority? 

  • The lost are still out there. Now more than ever, they are thinking about death and their place in the world. 

  • COVID-19 will pass, eternity is forever. Seek the lost, now is the time.

    Eddie Roman

Freedom of Speech?

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Street evangelism comes with many challenges. Opposition comes in all forms, and unfortunately sometimes it takes the form of an unjust officer or security guard. In my 10+ years of open-air preaching and public evangelism, most of my interaction with police has been positive. My first memory of police confrontation was when a nice lady officer asked me to move because I was too close to a vendor at the Mission Inn during their Christmas festival. I complied, moved 20 feet or so, and had a great night of outreach. Earlier this year I was in Oceanside when a heckler threw an apple core at me and pegged my shoulder. He probably didn’t notice the five officers nearby, having a conversation. The heckler disappeared into the crowd and three officers went looking for him. The slippery perp got away, but I was grateful for the effort of the lawmen who were on my side. All this to say… I like the police, I understand they are good for society. Most of time. As for the other times, it’s good for a street preacher to understand his rights. 

Brad Dacus and the Pacific Justice Institute have a great track record of defending the free speech rights of evangelists. In this episode of Romans Road, Brad gives us a good overview on speech rights. What if someone accuses you of using “hate speech”? Can an officer make you turn off your speaker during your open-air preaching?  What if you get arrested for the “crime” of preaching the gospel? For the answers to these questions and more listen to Romans Road, Free Speech Laws.

Porn in the Church!

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Covid-19 has changed our lifestyle. It has driven us online like never before, and many are turning to pornography. Men find comfort in their idols, and throughout human history pornography has been at the top of the idol heap. In this interview with Josh Sazdanoff, Author of, “Blessed Are The Pure: How to Conquer Sexual Sin and Live Victoriously”, you will learn how to break free from the shackles of porn and/or help those around you do the same. Listen to “Porn in the Church!”, the latest episode of Romans Road:

Not Shut Down: The Great Commission

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The pandemic is upon us. Schools, businesses and beaches are shutting down. One thing that will not shut down is the Great Commission. I had the opportunity to witness to a Juice Barista (is that what they’re called?) from 6 feet away, and it is now a podcast episode. Stay healthy, but don’t forget our mission to reach the lost! May this episode encourage you to keep your eyes on Jesus Christ.

False Teacher Coronavirus Mayhem!

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The Coronavirus is a source of fear and uncertainty for many. As always, false teachers are taking advantage of the fact that many people do not know their bible. Do pastors have the ability to command a virus to flee? Does God promise Christians will be healed of all ailments and problems? Do the blessings of the Lord include guaranteed health, wealth and prosperity? Bill Johnson of the so-called New Apostolic Reformation, along with Kenneth Copeland of the Word of Faith Movement would both say yes; Christians should always be healed and prosper financially. But is that biblical? The short answer is… no. In this episode of Romans Road, Justin Peters exposes the unbiblical nature of these false teachers. The New Apostolic Reformation is growing, and there’s a good chance you will have friends or family associated with this at some point. Be ready to refute the error and pull people from these damaging doctrines. Here’s Romans Road with Justin Peters:

Campus Preacher

See the guy with the white shirt in the middle of the crowd? That’s Keith Darrell, the Campus Preacher. California State University San Marcos.

See the guy with the white shirt in the middle of the crowd? That’s Keith Darrell, the Campus Preacher. California State University San Marcos.

When you think of the American college campus, what comes to mind? For Keith Darrell, a campus is a mission field. Keith, also known as The Campus Preacher, is a missionary to American universities. He has been open-air preaching at schools across the country for many years. I had the chance to watch and listen a few years back at San Diego State University, and it was inspiring. I saw huge crowds, hard questions from students and good, clear answers from Keith. College preachers often get a well-deserved bad reputation for their anger and heresy. Keith is the opposite of what many students have experienced, he is extremely patient and level headed during his preaching and interaction with students. It is possible to be bold, and (at the same time) full of grace.

A few days ago, my son texted me a photo of a huge crowd with a man in the middle. “Dad, there’s an open-air preacher on campus!” After examining the photo, I texted back, “Dude! That’s Keith Darrell, go listen to him!” My son watched for 30 minutes, and he was encouraged. For Christian students, watching someone stand boldly in the midst of opposition can be a life changing experience. I thank God for biblical open-air preachers. So here you go; be blessed as you listen to my interview with Keith Darrell, The Campus Preacher.